Yeah, we need to work on 5:05 - 5:30. We are basically riding Joe on that part so that needs to be practiced. There's not much I have to say about the solos, I thought they were all fairly nice and there was no universal error to bring up (I mean it's a blues so...). One thing I noticed though was at the beginning of my second chorus around 2:56 was when I dipped into the lower register I got lost in the mix and it all became muddy. Was this the recorder? or is it how it actually sounded?
To be entirely honest I don't know why the end is such a prolbem. I use specific phrasing based on the recording for the entire song. There's also specific short and long marks in the sheet music itself. I thought all the solos were pretty good. I tried to switch in mine to the blues scale during the second chorus of mine and it wasn't horrid, but it was sketchy. I can also distinguish which of the saxes went first, which is good. I loved Justin's solo.
Agasin the groove just isn't there. There's a beat, but the FEEL of the song. In every recording I listen to there's no EMOTION. I realize that everyone including myself needs to become more comfortable with what their doing, but without a groove that kicks there's nothing there.
There are some great things about our rythm section though. Zach holds a very constant groove, but it needs to funkier. If you listen to the recordings up to this point and beyond, every time the feel improves just a little bit more, so you can tell he's making progress. Keep up the work Zach.
I also enjoy how it ends with all of us grunting XD
I agree with Joe on the feel thing again. I think that it should be noted that the feel is not just on the Rhythm section but the whole band. We are at the point now where we are obviously capable of playing notes but music is much more than that. In order to get that sound that we want (what Joe in particular is talking about) we have to actually feel the song. We need to discover where the composition is coming from and jump on for the ride. I think we need to take the time to listen to other takes on the standards. Heres the names of what we've done so far, I'll also link a couple examples of Bossa that I found helpful/awesome.
Duke's Convoy = Caravan Mist and Grits = Misty Bossa at Night = Corcovado (Quiet Night of Quiet Stars... MILES DAVIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff96CKnMzt8&feature=fvst OSCAR PETERSON TRIO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRwfoEaMWIA
The blues aren't associated with a certain standard I don't think so just endulge on the recording given to us.
Dom thanks for the links they were great! My thoughts on this song mirror my thoughts for Mist and Grits. I think we get a nice relaxing song and we immediately stop being creative. Its almost as if we get ourselves stuck in the mindset that something out of the ordinary would be bad. As far as the drumming goes it is hard to play when songs sound flat. I know it is my job to keep it from happening but when opportunities don't arise and we don't feed off of each other it makes everyone's contributions to the song much more difficult to respond to.
I agree completely. The energy level of the piece is everyone's responsibility. That doesn't mean be hyper and rushing, that means intensity and groove. Groove is a balance of space and notes. Imagine a funky rhythm in your head. Do it now. Is it all one long note? or is is a few notes separated by space?
Yeah, we need to work on 5:05 - 5:30. We are basically riding Joe on that part so that needs to be practiced. There's not much I have to say about the solos, I thought they were all fairly nice and there was no universal error to bring up (I mean it's a blues so...). One thing I noticed though was at the beginning of my second chorus around 2:56 was when I dipped into the lower register I got lost in the mix and it all became muddy. Was this the recorder? or is it how it actually sounded?
ReplyDeleteI haven't really looked at this piece much, so I will practice it. I agree that 5:05-5:30 needs some work. Solos seemed good for the most part.
ReplyDeleteYes. Listen to the original recording for phrasing of the ensemble section.
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ReplyDeleteTo be entirely honest I don't know why the end is such a prolbem. I use specific phrasing based on the recording for the entire song. There's also specific short and long marks in the sheet music itself. I thought all the solos were pretty good. I tried to switch in mine to the blues scale during the second chorus of mine and it wasn't horrid, but it was sketchy. I can also distinguish which of the saxes went first, which is good. I loved Justin's solo.
ReplyDeleteAgasin the groove just isn't there. There's a beat, but the FEEL of the song. In every recording I listen to there's no EMOTION. I realize that everyone including myself needs to become more comfortable with what their doing, but without a groove that kicks there's nothing there.
There are some great things about our rythm section though. Zach holds a very constant groove, but it needs to funkier. If you listen to the recordings up to this point and beyond, every time the feel improves just a little bit more, so you can tell he's making progress. Keep up the work Zach.
I also enjoy how it ends with all of us grunting XD
I agree with Joe on the feel thing again. I think that it should be noted that the feel is not just on the Rhythm section but the whole band. We are at the point now where we are obviously capable of playing notes but music is much more than that. In order to get that sound that we want (what Joe in particular is talking about) we have to actually feel the song. We need to discover where the composition is coming from and jump on for the ride. I think we need to take the time to listen to other takes on the standards. Heres the names of what we've done so far, I'll also link a couple examples of Bossa that I found helpful/awesome.
ReplyDeleteDuke's Convoy = Caravan
Mist and Grits = Misty
Bossa at Night = Corcovado (Quiet Night of Quiet Stars...
MILES DAVIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff96CKnMzt8&feature=fvst
OSCAR PETERSON TRIO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRwfoEaMWIA
The blues aren't associated with a certain standard I don't think so just endulge on the recording given to us.
Dom thanks for the links they were great! My thoughts on this song mirror my thoughts for Mist and Grits. I think we get a nice relaxing song and we immediately stop being creative. Its almost as if we get ourselves stuck in the mindset that something out of the ordinary would be bad. As far as the drumming goes it is hard to play when songs sound flat. I know it is my job to keep it from happening but when opportunities don't arise and we don't feed off of each other it makes everyone's contributions to the song much more difficult to respond to.
ReplyDeleteI agree completely. The energy level of the piece is everyone's responsibility. That doesn't mean be hyper and rushing, that means intensity and groove. Groove is a balance of space and notes. Imagine a funky rhythm in your head. Do it now. Is it all one long note? or is is a few notes separated by space?
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